Using Scenario's - groups of 20 in 2 hours?

[FiB]

Hi,
Anyone doing this or have any idea how to get the most out of it?
We have limited time in our clinical skills sessions, 2 hours max. And need to get through 20 students in that time. We plan to use SIM-man to run scenarios in 'basic emergency skills' session.
Any ideas and top tips welcome,
Fi

[wwilkinson]

FiB
Can you tell me what institution you are from?

Thanks,
Wendy Jo Wilkinson
Clinical Educator, METI

[sabkoh]

I was a nursing lecturer at a tertiary institution. We purchased the PNCI for use with the ECS. We have 15-16 students in each skills group and our lab session is 2 hours. What we did was limit the scenario run time to 20 min and debriefing 10 min. Therefore, for the 2 hours session, we may have 4 groups of 4 students to work together. Some feedback from the students is that they prefer a longer debriefing.
We started our semester with a whole 2-hour of simulation orientation to the set up, manikin, other equipment and the Do's and Don'ts during simulation. This really helps as we do not need to give a pre-briefing during each session thereafter.

[wwilkinson]

There may be several options available. If your goal is to have all learners have hands on with the simulator within the two hour time frame, then you could have groups of 5 do a 20 min. simulation. That would be a total of 180 min and you would then have 40 min to debrief all together. If all learners do not need to have hands on, then you could do groups of 10, with half the group doing and the other have observing. Observers do learn as much as the doers. Then all debrief together.

[Amanda]

Hello,

Some more ideas - firstly you could use 4 SCEs or one SCE that has 4 or more states - split the students up into 4 groups - 1 group per SCE/state- allow them 15 minutes then 15 minute debrief ( the students who observe the themes comment too) with remaining students observing - the 3 observing groups ask them to focus on one theme individually for example Assessment, Communication, Nursing Management then rotate every one around so that by the end of the 2 hours everyone has had a go at simulating, observing a group's assessment , communication and nursing management - this I find works well with groups as they have a go at everything. Also by giving the observers a specific task this helps them develop their critical thinking skills and by them debriefing that theme how to communicate their ideas succinctly - best wishes, Amanda :)

[viper2lt]

wow! same situation here. thanks for the tips. hi from the philippines, mandy! this is peevee.

[Amanda]

Dear Peevee,

Hello - how is it all going? Is there anything I can do to help? Mandy :)

[viper2lt]

we have been using the ecs stan since the first sem and everything is doing fine. everybody's fine. i was sent to the hpsn convention in singapore 2 weeks ago. i was kinda expecting to run into you there. i might be going to hpsn 09 in tampa. i hope to see you there.

[mjmcintosh]

I know you posted this awhile ago, I just joined. I use a collaborative approach. My students do not like team work per say. With each scenario for instance birthing Noelle I used the preplanned scenarios to assign to each of my 15 students. This could be easily modified for how ever many students you have. In this case each student was responsible for answering one phase of the birth. One student demonstrated how to test amniotic fluid, etc...The students were all given tasks or critical thinking exercises that pertained to the birth. In sequence they presented and my top student delivered. This worked out really well. I would have more supplies available for my next collaborative simulation. mjm

[Pamela]

Hi,

This really helps as we do not need to give a pre-briefing during each session thereafter.
Observers do learn as much as the doers.
This could be easily modified for how ever many students you have.

Thanks.